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From Virtual and Open Presidential Debate for 2008

Mr. Moore,

Great ideas on campaign reforms.

How do you plan to fund all the “free” programs you list?

With considerably reduced military, how do you propose to defend the USA against probable attacks?

Respectfully,

Daniel Kingery

Frank Moore wrote:
I’ll do away with all tax deductions for over $12,000 income. Instead, there will be a flat tax of 10% on annual income of less than one million dollars for an individual and less than five million dollars for a corporation. But the flat tax will jump to 75% on annual income exceeding these limits.

I’ll cut the military budget by at least half.

I will also reduce the federal government while raising services to the people by getting rid of welfare, social security, the so-called war on drugs, etc., and by the cuts in the military, the I.R.S., prisons, etc.

We will use half of the money we will save by cutting the military budget to pay down the national debt. I will shrink the federal bureaucracy and again use half of the savings for this pay down. I will reduce the pollution caused by obscene corporate profits.

Basically the problem is not a lack of money, but what we have spent our money on…war, pork, waste, etc. It has been a standard trick to distract us with supposed waste, fraud, etc. in the social programs while milking us out of billions in military waste, corporate welfare, etc.

Today, because of monopolies, we pay much more for drugs and have less access to drugs than most Western nations. The drug companies are searching for what will generate the largest profits, and that dictates the research. This means many problems that are deemed unprofitable are left unexplored. Under my policies, companies that develop drugs based on research done at universities, government labs or other public institutions will pay royalties to those public institutions, thereby making future research possible.

It is to get back to common wealth rather than wealth, to induce the break up of the big corporations, to bring back the control of our society to us the people, to turn away from greed and distorting huge profits, and shift the burden of paying for our common good to those who have the ability to pay. all of this will open up a great wealth of new opportunities for everybody.

Frankly, most of “the rich” make out very well under my plan. In your personal life, do you know anybody making a million dollars a year? I don’t. but I would call that person RICH. and that person would pay at the 10% tax rate. Not bad! The rich…like everybody else…will get $12,000 tax-free each year, free health-care and education, etc. Businesses won’t have to provide health-care or pensions to their workers. Yep, the rich will do quite well. and the wealth junkies can still make as much money as they want. They will keep 25%!

All businesses selling their products in the U.S. will have to certify that their products were manufactured in accordance with this country’s labor, wage, environmental, and safety laws … that they meet or exceed these … no matter where they were produced. This would curb people’s desire to come to this country for a better life. It would also remove the corporations’ motivation for draining jobs from this country. Businesses would pay non-citizen workers at least the minimum wage which would be tied to the cost of living. Businesses that hire non-citizen workers would pay a tax to cover the additional costs to our educational and health systems. This tax couldn’t be taken out of the wages of the workers.

The military budget is so bloated, so focused on the past, cutting it by half would actually increase, rather than decrease, our military defense effectiveness.

Frank Moore is a screwball

Blue House wrote:
I posted Frank’s platform on energy and climate change on craigslist Oregon, and was posted after …

Frank Moore is a screwball

So Frank Moore wants us all to live in small villages connected to mass transit? What happens to all the big cities that exist? If you took away most of the combustion engines in the major cities and put an emphases on mass transit or produced electric cars or hybrid cars you could create a much healthier environment, why would people have to live in small villages?

His ideas seem to be unrealistic at best. He says that he promotes free public mass transit,well who will pay for it? He says he is also for legalizing drugs yet he turns around and says that tobacco should require a prescription. He proposes that he will do away with welfare and social security and give every adult American a minimum income of $1,000 a month. What happens to the safety net for people who have been laid off, and people with disabilities, and people nearing retirement age? Don’t they need that social security and don’t the severely disabled need some form of assistance?

If he completely does away with welfare and social security just how exactly is he going to “guarantee employment” for millions of Americans out of work and not receiving any money? Just think how desperate millions of Americans will become if you leave them jobless, with no social security, or food stamps, and with no money to eat or provide shelter over their heads when they are out of work, crime will triple.

What he says sounds enticing but it really doesn’t make any sense at all, and why would I vote for a candidate who stands absolutely NO chance at all to win?

Frank Moore wrote:
a screwball, eh? well, pitchers will tell you that screwballs are very useful, especially if they are controlled/focused.

cities are actually networks of small villages. living in terms of small villages is much more effective on every level. the less energy we use the better, no matter what kind of energy.

see my platform at http://www.frankmooreforpresident08.com/ to see how we will pay for our proposals. the combination of the guaranteed minimum income of $1,000 a month, lifetime free education, and universal free health care [including long term care and home attendants] will form an effective safety net.

will you put this in GOING ON?

this November [or earlier],

WRITE-IN
FRANK MOORE
for PRESIDENT

& SUSAN BLOCK
for VICE-PRESIDENT!

for a humane, sustainable, and just plain enjoyable society!

See http://www.frankmooreforpresident08.com/qualified_write-in_states.html
for the states in which Frank is qualified as a write-in candidate and
instructions for how to write-in Frank Moore / Susan Block in your state!

Frank Moore has qualified in the following 25 states as a write-in
candidate for President of the United States! Alabama, Alaska, California,
Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota,
Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon,
Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia,
Wisconsin, Wyoming.

Go to http://www.frankmooreforpresident08.com/ to read his platform and
check in with the campaign. And to find out to write in, go to
http://www.frankmooreforpresident08.com/qualified_write-in_states.html and
click on your state.

Harley wrote:
Hi Guys n Gals – please send Goings On email to harley@franklinfurnace.org
only – this account is my personal one – no need to duplicate. thanks
m’friends, Harley

Frank Moore wrote:
OK

Harley wrote:
grassy-ass! run Frank run = Pennsylvania Avenue’s almost in sight and lord
knows we need ya! Harley, forever dangling carrots

Frank Moore wrote:
better than dangling chads!

New York

Blue House wrote:
It is official (finally got the confirmation from NY yesterday after weeks of the write-ins being under “Executive Review”): Frank Moore and Susan Block are qualified write-in candidates for President/Vice-President in New York state!

Frank Moore wrote:
it’s very exciting!

btw, i just read that they don’t count write-ins on election night. it may take up to a month to find out how many votes we got.

on the campaign trail

DA BOYZ:

There was the call from the polygamist group! Corey went down to call Carlene … amazing! She loved all of Frank’s platform ideas that Corey talked about in response to her candidate survey … this would be reaching 30,000 polygamist voters in Utah! She was especially struck by the simple masterful concept of family that Frank outlines in the platform … marriages would be left to churches, etc. … but any 2 or more people who have lived together for more than 2 years can register as a family, and receive all the benefits and protections that married couples receive today. An amazing call, and she would be sending the list of questions to Frank as well so that he could expand on some of the ideas!

Then we were parking in downtown Berkeley, and getting started! We plastered all of downtown Berkeley. We realized that it was much easier to do a postering night in Berkeley on a Saturday night, plus we knew now that they would stay up until Monday! Much easier than going out on a Friday night after a full day of work and all the other Friday evening activities. We wore our red, white & blue cowboy hats, which people really like, and made our way through downtown, plastering! People were curious, and we handed out platforms to several people along the way. At a cafe about halfway through our route, we ran into this older scraggly guy and a young black guy at the back of the cafe near the poster board. They both knew about Frank running for President. The older guy said that he and Frank are legendary! We asked him what he was legendary for?! He said he didn’t want to toot his own horn, and tried to get the younger guy to tell us, but it didn’t work, so he confided that he has sold enormous amounts of pot in his lifetime, a proud member of NORML. We told him about Frank’s platform on legalization, and he already knew about it. He really liked Frank, loved the platform, and said that people think that this is some kind of a joke when they see Frank’s picture, but this is a very substantive serious platform that Frank has. The younger black guy knew that Frank was running too, but hadn’t read the platform, and we gave him one, and left him reading it … totally engrossed. We gave the older guy a button too, which he loved!

We postered our way back to the car … a succesful night of fliering. It was so neat to experience first hand how effective the fliering is, and how many people are being exposed to Frank …

At bng, on an early break with Nai and Kao, they were watching the news, and Nai was asking why they never talk about Frank on the news if he is one of 7 or so candidates who could actually win the presidency. Kao said that they don’t even cover some of the more well known 3rd party candidates, because they don’t want people to know about anyone except the parties in power, they don’t want to allow for the other possibilities.

Corey was also telling folks about the call from Utah, and the 30,000 potential votes in Utah! Jennifer said that she liked Frank’s platform about marriage — it made a lot of sense!

Checking off the new milk guy, Tom, telling him the latest about Frank’s campaign … and then back into the cooler to do the milk delivery … Kevin of Cultured (raw sauerkraut), Alex’s husband, was doing his semi-regular delivery to the store … The last time he was there, Corey was outside checking off the milk order and talking to Bruce about the campaign … and Corey told him about Frank running for President … he sort of knew about it, but was totally impressed to learn that it was completely for real! Now, Corey had a chance to hand him a platform, and he was really glad to get it, saying he and Alex were going to check it out! Corey also told him about the call from Utah, which he was totally amazed by, and as he was leaving, saying, Frank could get the polygamist vote in Utah!

Also, in the morning at some point, Steve Levine of Excellent Paper Supply was in the store, doing his order for BNG, and Corey and he started chatting about the election. He was disgusted with the process … he didn’t like that his local polling place had been shut down and his only choice for voting now was to do it by mail. That was not an anonymous vote, they knew where it was coming from, especially out where he lived in the country in Napa … He much preferred to go into the polling place and push the buttons, and turn in his ballot, but since Napa county was closing down scores of polling places, he imagined that the Napa elections department didn’t share his point of view! Corey asked him if he had told him about Frank running for President? He had, and Steve had also read the platform … Steve said, so I can’t look for his name on the ballot, right? I have to write him in? Frank Moore? M-O-O-R-E? Ok. Well, I am going to vote for Frank, I’ll write him in. !

Corey wrote up the email about the Minnesota letter to Richard Winger, and it wasn’t long before he responded, and then Corey talked to him by phone too. What would we do without Richard!? Amazing! … reading his blog post later, it was amazing how he could just pull up these court cases to illustrate his point, and now we could use this as well when Corey called Minnesota Monday morning!

We went into Cafe International, and saw Zahara again, the owner … it had been quite some time. We told her that Frank was running for President! She said, Really?? “Well, he’ll be better than this,” and she pulled out a color copy of McCain’s head with Palin next to him, actually her face on a nude playboy-type model’s body! We gave her the platform and she started reading it, loving everything … She took a button too and put it right on. And told the guy waiting for coffee behind us that he should vote for Frank! She said, “He’ll get some votes through me, because I have a lot of influence in this neighborhood!”

virtual debate question

Blue House wrote:
There was actually another question, which I’m not sure exactly how Frank would answer (part of the same post with the question about funding the free programs …)

“With considerably reduced military, how do you propose to defend the USA against probable attacks?”

Frank Moore wrote:
the military budget is so bloated, so focused on the past, cutting it by half would actually increase, rather than decrease, our military defense effectiveness.

District of Columbia

Richard Winger wrote:
did you file in the District of Columbia?

can’t tell from your map. DC is too small to show up!

I am broken-hearted to learn today that Alaska won’t tally write-in votes, even for declared write-in candidates.

Frank Moore wrote:
unfortunately we are one person/elector short in d.c.

i figure that if we had known when we started this campaign 2 years ago what we know now, we would have qualified in between 5 to 10 more states.

Voting…

Paul Escriva wrote:
Hi Frankie,

Just got home from casting an early voting ballot for you.

Have been distributing the buttons you sent for the past few weeks. I even gave one of the original buttons to Tim Miller back in July.

Chicago weather is cold but it is heating up over you!

When will you get the actual count from each state?

Take care,

xo Paul

Frank Moore wrote:
great, paul! keep it up! as for finding out how many votes we got, we will figure that out AFTER the election. now we are focused on getting votes!

Frank received a rejection letter from Minnesota yesterday …